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End of round two…

End of round two…

For their second (geddit?) release of 1977, Genesis unleashed their second (geddit) live album, Seconds Out. Recorded at the Palais de Sport in Paris mostly between 11th and 14th June 1977 (with The Cinema Show recorded at the same venue on 23rd June 1976), this double live set is widely regarded as one of “the best live albums ever, by Genesis fans at least, and was released to critical acclaim.

The album would be released in October 1977, by which time Steve Hackett had already departed the group for solo pastures, and in fact the remaining trio would have recorded their next release, more of that next time. Another chapter of the book of Genesis closed and a new era would begin in 1978.

Right here, right now, Gary and Simon discuss the album in a most appropriate setting. Do they agree with the fan consensus about the album’s greatness? Does Gary learn to love Suppers Ready? What do they think of Phil covering Peter? All this and more can be found in this episode.

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The grime on the Tyne is mine, all mine, all mine.

Out on a wiley, windy moor. Somewhere in Yorkshire.

Out on a wiley, windy moor. Somewhere in Yorkshire.

In 1976 Phil Collins is the singer in Genesis and they release their brand new album, A Trick of the…hang on, wait a minute! They released another album in 1976? Does Peter Gabriel know about this?

So….released as an early Christmas present, their second album of 1976 arrived on December 17th. Their 8th overall, it firmly cemented Phil Collins as the lead singer and featured classics that would become staples of the live set for many years to come.

However, all was not happy in the Genesis camp, and Steve Hackett was counting out time before he left, frustrated that his songwriting efforts were being side-lined *cough* AllInAMouse’sNight *cough*, he made the decision to leave the band in mid-1977.

In this episode! Gary and Simon find themselves in a salty situation, but use the time to discuss the second chapter in the “Phil Ruins Genesis” story (Spoiler: Phil doesn’t ruin Genesis, don’t be ridiculous). Do they enjoy the album? Which song makes it into Simon’s “Top 500” tracks list? How exactly does one eat a juicy raw rat? All these answers and more can be found in this episode!

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Midweek Hackett Madness!

On October 1st 2018, Steve Hackett began his Genesis Revisited with Band and Orchestra tour in Nottingham.

Here are the thoughts of two fools who went to see that show. Recorded live, respectively, on a Tram; in a branch of Starbucks and in Simon's car. The sound quality is variable in places and topics of discussion include: Coffee, Trams, Vodka and what Steve might get up to on his visit to Nottingham.

NOTE: May contain some swears!

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Enter the drummer.

He's leaving by the roof!

He's leaving by the roof!

In 1975 Peter Gabriel quit Genesis just as they were about to hit the big time! Or, pay off some debts at least. He retired to his vegetable patch and, eventually, on to a successful solo career. But his involvement in the Genesis story was over for the most part. Which leaves the group without a singer...

Enter Phil, reluctantly at first, but with increasing confidence he takes on the mantle of front man and wins over literally everybody ever (note: maybe not everybody). After sifting through hundreds of demo tapes, the band finally settle on Phil and get down to recording their breakthrough album, A Trick Of The Tail. Released on 13th February 1976 to critical and commercial success, the album and subsequent tour raised the band's profile in the USA which ultimately led to the sell out tours of later years.

Back in the present day, Simon is taking Gary to get his casts removed and they decide to fill the hours waiting with a discussion about this seminal album. Do the boys take to Phil as lead vocalist? Is everything the band do from now on rubbish? What is the connection to Russ Abbot? Which classic does Gary hate this time? All this, and maybe more, is answered in this episode, featuring a surprise appearance from a popular comedian.

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Look out for the next episode in 4 weeks time, where we indulge in a little Wind & Wuthering.

The History Makers

Would you buy a used demo off these men?

Would you buy a used demo off these men?

In 1998, barely a year after the band released their last studio album, the classic 5 man line up reunited to compile 4CDs of largely unreleased tracks. Covering the years 1967-1975 (although the tracks are placed in roughly reverse order) this gem contains the only official live recording of the whole of The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway (bar "IT" due to a lazy tape op), and demos of the band from before they were even tied to a record deal.

Returning to the pub a broken man, literally, Gary does his best to find some joy within these tracks. Will he agree that Supper's Ready is a masterpiece? Will Simon be able to convince him it's worth the purchase? Will either of them get beaten up by the barman? Find out the answer to all these questions and more in this special episode.

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Look out for the next episode coming soon, in which we turn our attention back to the regular releases with A Trick Of The Tail.


One of Magog's hordes, swarming around.

One of Magog's hordes, swarming around.

We've been so far from here, but now we're back again. And babe it's gonna work out fine. Probably.

After a hiatus, to recover from the traumatic events of episode 6a & 6b, Gary and Simon turn their attention to the classic Genesis Live album in the first of two special "minisodes".

Released on 20th July 1973, Genesis Live was the bands first UK top 10 album. Originally conceived as a double album, the eventual release was a stripped down compilation released at a budget price.

Gary and Simon cast their eye...their ear? Over the LP and give their opinions in their own unique way. Where could Gary be going? Which track does Simon hate? Which zone is for unloading only? Find out in this mini-episode.

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Good morning Rael, so sorry you had to wait...

Back to The Lamb...

Back to The Lamb...

*Caution! Podcast contains excessive use of the word "dick". I mean, it's a bit too much to be honest. You should definitely avoid it if that offends you.*

Rat infested and excrement covered, and that's just Gary and Simon, the recording of the Lamb was labourious but resulted in a masterpiece. This second half notably features the only lyrics on the album not written by Peter Gabriel. Funnily enough they are the only ones that make sense. Released on 18th November 1974, the album reached number 10 in the UK, number 14 in the band's second home of Italy and, surprisingly, number 15 in Canada.

In this engorged episode, Simon and Gary finish up their discussion of the Lamb. They chat about what might have happened if Peter had stayed in the group, and almost, almost, come to blows (again) about the classic nature of the whole thing. Does the story reach a satisfying conclusion? Is it a fitting end to Peter Gabriel's time with the band? Will the boys find a way out of the weird place they are in and back to the pub in time for last orders? Find out in this episode.

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Early morning Manhattan...

Hey! I'm seeing double here!

Hey! I'm seeing double here!

In a rat-infested, excrement covered house in Wales, Genesis reconvene, for the last time, following the Selling England Tour. Despite Peter leaving the group during recording (only to return), and through a lot of emotional twists and turns the band come together to deliver a bona-fide classic of the prog rock genre with The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway. Finally released in November 1974 it marked the end of the Peter Gabriel era, and went on to become one of the most popular prog rock concept albums. It made it to number 10 in the UK album charts but failed to produce a hit single.
In this episode Simon and Gary find themselves trapped in a weird landscape so they take the opportunity to discuss the tumultuous recording of the album and manage to get to the Chamber of 32 Doors, although Simon somehow manages to end up wet again. What do they think of this first half? Why don't the hundreds of people in the chamber just work together to escape? Why is brother John such a dick? All this, and more is discussed.
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It lies with me, cries the Queen of maybe...

An Englishman, hard at work, pictured this morning.

An Englishman, hard at work, pictured this morning.

Released on 13th October 1973, just days after Simon’s first birthday, Selling England By The Pound is the 5th Album by Genesis. It becomes their best seller to date, reaching number 3 in the UK charts on the back of hit single “I Know What I Like (In Your Wardrobe)”. Betty Swanwick delivers a decent cover, Steve delivers several guitar riffs and Peter just can’t seem to locate his country.

In this episode Gary decides he can multi-task and drags Simon around the local supermarket to discuss the album in an appropriate setting. In a quest for table jellies they encounter west-end hoodlums, the spirit of Britain and love in the 1970’s. What do they think of the album? Will Tess finally co-operate? Find out in this episode.

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There's an angel standing in the sun...

A fox on the rocks, pictured yesterday.

A fox on the rocks, pictured yesterday.

The classic line-up of Peter Gabriel, Tony Banks, Mike Rutherford, Phil Collins and Steve Hackett release their most successful UK album up to this point. Paul Whitehead delivers his best cover, and then is never used again, Peter dresses as a lady fox and Tony & Mike contemplate being alone on an empty planet.

In this episode Simon and Gary discuss the very first album Simon went out and bought with his own money. It's 1972 and Genesis release their best album to date, Foxtrot. But! There's trouble a-brewing as Simon and Gary disagree over one of the all time Genesis classics. Which track is it? Who likes it and who doesn't? Find out by listening to this.

We're all going to the zoo tomorrow.

A Victorian croquet player.

A Victorian croquet player.

A drummer and a guitarist complete the classic line up. There is literally no stopping Italy at least where they play to adoring crowds. Not so much back home in Britain.

In this episode Gary does his best to avoid talking about Genesis with Simon. He doesn't succeed. The boys discuss the popularity of the band's third LP Nursery Cryme on the continent. Find out why Simon ends up wet and what exactly they think of the addition of Steve Hackett and Phil Collins to the line up.

In the beginning...

...There was the word. And the word was Genesis...

Genesis released their first single 50 years ago! 50 years! So to celebrate Simon made his friend Gary listen to all the Genesis albums in order and then review them in the local pub, commonly known as The Revelation Station. What will Gary think? Will they stay friends? Is the beer here any good? The answer to these questions will probably be revealed.

In this introductory first episode we meet the boys, who enjoy a quiet pint in the snug and discuss how they first heard the band.